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Read Under the Banner of Heaven eBook ☆ Paperback à moneyexpresscard ä A Story of Violent FaithA multilayered bone chilling narrative of messianic delusion savage violence polygamy and unyielding faith This is vintage Krakauer an utterly compelling work of nonfiction that illuminates an otherwise coA Story of Violent FaithA multilayered bone chilling narrative of messianic delusion savage violence polygamy and unyielding faith T I read this book for the book club at my local library Afterwards I felt indignant confused intrigued and disgusted about all forms of faith So I sincerely hoped that a Saint or two would show up at the book club meeting to nullify my extremely negative view of the church Alas no LDS believers showed so I am left to my own conclusions about the book and faith in general Here are some of my conclusions and uestions after reading this sprawling fascinating account of the history of polygamy and violence within the Church of Later Day SaintsThere is a certain appeal to having no choices Sometimes religion is comforting because obedience to a provided list of rules removes personal responsibility Strict adherence to a religion removes personal doubt When you believe so fully in a church you are no longer forced to uestion your own actions after all if you carefully follow the directions of your spiritual leaders you will gain your own paradise regardless of what your personal conscious says about right or wrong This leads me into my next point I will never be a Mormon for many reasons First in the Mormon faith if you realize the highest echelon of Mormonism you will get your own planet to run after you die If you're a man that is If you're a woman you can join your man on his planet if he invites you No no no Please I deserve my own planet Wives and children are property at least in the fundamentalists sects of Mormonism I am a person an event not chattel Second remind me to never join a religion that condones killing See blood atonement as typified in the Mountain Meadows Massacre Third I don't want to be a believer in a faith that tells me I have to earn love least of all God's We are all holy I think We all have goodness and grace within us no matter how many veils of earthly existence have descended Finally I will never follow a religion that doesn't encourage me to uestion everything Information and education are my life blood I must be able to use my brain to get closer to God Otherwise why the heck would she give it to me?So now that we have the comments specific to the Mormon faith out of the way let's move on to the uestions about faith in general I heartily recommend this book to anyone who is going through a personal crisis It will boil your blood and make you think What could you want? Here are my uestions1 Why does listening to the divine in each of us produce such different results? It can lead to peace and pacifism or killing Who is speaking? God or ego?2 Is all fundementalism mired in violence or do certain faiths promote it? 3 Does God always speak in King James' English? It seems so according to the Book of Mormon4 Would all religions seem this crazy if we were only 200 years out and had intimate dirty details of each guru's life?5 Is there anything inherently wrong with polygamy? Do we have a gene for monogomy? I don't care as long as no one gets hurt And marrying 13 year olds sometimes when they're your own daughter is inherently hurtful6 Is faith the opposite of reason? Is education the cure for religion?7Is religion a distraction from the humdrum of our everyday lives? Opposite of BuddhismOk y'all sorry about the long review But seriously read the book It's excellently chilling and will keep you up late at night writing your comments furiously on post it notes At least that's what it did to me

Under the Banner of HeavenA Story of Violent FaithA multilayered bone chilling narrative of messianic delusion savage violence polygamy and unyielding faith T I read this book for the book club at my local library Afterwards I felt indignant confused intrigued and disgusted about all forms of faith So I sincerely hoped that a Saint or two would show up at the book club meeting to nullify my extremely negative view of the church Alas no LDS believers showed so I am left to my own conclusions about the book and faith in general Here are some of my conclusions and uestions after reading this sprawling fascinating account of the history of polygamy and violence within the Church of Later Day SaintsThere is a certain appeal to having no choices Sometimes religion is comforting because obedience to a provided list of rules removes personal responsibility Strict adherence to a religion removes personal doubt When you believe so fully in a church you are no longer forced to uestion your own actions after all if you carefully follow the directions of your spiritual leaders you will gain your own paradise regardless of what your personal conscious says about right or wrong This leads me into my next point I will never be a Mormon for many reasons First in the Mormon faith if you realize the highest echelon of Mormonism you will get your own planet to run after you die If you're a man that is If you're a woman you can join your man on his planet if he invites you No no no Please I deserve my own planet Wives and children are property at least in the fundamentalists sects of Mormonism I am a person an event not chattel Second remind me to never join a religion that condones killing See blood atonement as typified in the Mountain Meadows Massacre Third I don't want to be a believer in a faith that tells me I have to earn love least of all God's We are all holy I think We all have goodness and grace within us no matter how many veils of earthly existence have descended Finally I will never follow a religion that doesn't encourage me to uestion everything Information and education are my life blood I must be able to use my brain to get closer to God Otherwise why the heck would she give it to me?So now that we have the comments specific to the Mormon faith out of the way let's move on to the uestions about faith in general I heartily recommend this book to anyone who is going through a personal crisis It will boil your blood and make you think What could you want? Here are my uestions1 Why does listening to the divine in each of us produce such different results? It can lead to peace and pacifism or killing Who is speaking? God or ego?2 Is all fundementalism mired in violence or do certain faiths promote it? 3 Does God always speak in King James' English? It seems so according to the Book of Mormon4 Would all religions seem this crazy if we were only 200 years out and had intimate dirty details of each guru's life?5 Is there anything inherently wrong with polygamy? Do we have a gene for monogomy? I don't care as long as no one gets hurt And marrying 13 year olds sometimes when they're your own daughter is inherently hurtful6 Is faith the opposite of reason? Is education the cure for religion?7Is religion a distraction from the humdrum of our everyday lives? Opposite of BuddhismOk y'all sorry about the long review But seriously read the book It's excellently chilling and will keep you up late at night writing your comments furiously on post it notes At least that's what it did to me

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Under the Banner of Heaven ó N Krakauer’s literary reputation rests on insightful chronicles of lives conducted at the outer limits In Under The Banner of Heav Hmmmwhere do I start? First of all I didn't finish reading this book It was intriguing in the beginning to learn about the Fundamentalist Mormons and the interestingly odd things they believe and practice It was also interesting to contemplate the power of faith Faith in something or someone regardless of what or whom they are can make people do unbelievable things This is trueI can see how Krakauer would have been frustrated when access to historical documents and interviews with prominent LDS leaders weren't granted to him In order to tell all sides of a story you must be able to research all sides I think in the past 5 10 years the LDS church has been forthcoming and open with their history and archives thanks largely to the prophet Gordon B Hinckley So perhaps if Krakauer were to have written this book now he would not encounter these same road blocks Some people may feel that if some aspects of the churches history were to be exposed to the general membership of the church it would cause members to lose faith This may be true of some But I believe that those who truly have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel the prophet Joseph Smith and especially of the Lord Jesus Christ; these people would not sway from their beliefs Being a devout member of the LDS Mormon faith I was a bit disturbed to see how the defining line between the FLDS and LDS churches was often blurred and crossed These religions are completely separate in all but their initial history Polygamy is not currently being practiced by any member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints that is in good standing If a member were practicing polygamy they would be excommunicated That said I also did not appreciate the tone with which Krakauer referred to Joseph Smith I have great respect and admiration for this leader of my church He was a good man who did the things that God and Jesus Christ asked him to do I'm sure it wasn't always easy but he did it anyway There are things in the history of the Mormon church that have and still occasionally do disturb me For instance polygamy the priesthood being withheld from black men the Mountain Meadows massacre etc But I also know that I do not understand everything and will be able to gain a complete understanding when I leave this earth Most of all I know that I have a testimony of the truthfulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ I know that Jesus Christ did restore His church here upon the earth through Joseph Smith I know that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God I also know that if I have Faith that intense faith that is reuired for people to do extraordinary and even seemingly ordinary things I will one day stand before my Lord Jesus Christ sure in the knowledge of my place as a daughter of God kindle ´ Under the Banner of Heaven á Jon Krakauer

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Jon Krakauer á Under the Banner of Heaven doc His is vintage Krakauer an utterly compelling work of nonfiction that illuminates an otherwise confounding realm of human behaviorJo this book is uite different from what i thought it would be i was excepting ‘in cold blood’ true crime vibes and that is present but much of the book explores the history of a particular religion and how extreme religious belief can sometimes inspire violent actions while the in depth history sections were not my favourite ive never been a history person no matter the topic i love JKs writing theres just something about it that makes me feel like he could take any subject and make it accessibly readable what i did find the most interesting were the numerous cases mentioned that exemplified such intriguing albeit horrific behaviour particularly surrounding polygamy the books main topic from the lafferty murders to the abduction of elizabeth smart and even the events of 911 i appreciate the time JK takes to include these i find the psychology behind these religiously motivated crimes to be so interesting so that was my main motivation for reading this book overall not my favourite JK book as there were some parts that bored me but still excellent writing and storytelling that is uintessentially krakauer ↠ 35 stars